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TRI-POWER COMPARISON



SIDE by SIDE Comparison
of a 1962-63 FORD THUNDERBIRD "M" Code Tri-Power
and a GALAXIE Tri-Power assembly

 


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THUNDERBIRD GALAXIE
Thunderird Emblem at front of Lid aircleaner_lid.jpg galaxie_tripower_lid plain with no emblem
Single Plane Carb Mounting intake_side_views.jpg galaxy3x2-2.jpg Stepped Carb Mounting Plane
Unique PCV System pcv_system_parts.jpg galaxie_pcv.jpg PCV Valve or
Road Draft Tube

Unique Carburetors carbs_right.jpg galaxy3x2-4.jpg Note the Crank on the Primary
Anti-stall Dashpot carbs_left.jpg galaxy3x2-3.jpg Not Used on Galaxie
Unique Kickdown Bracket 05_6vkickdown.jpg long_throttle_rod.jpg Unique Kickdown Bracket
Unique Throttle Rod linkage_bell_crank.jpg long_throttle_rod.jpg Straight Throttle Rod
Unique Vacuumn Advance Line linkage.jpg linkage.jpg Mechanical Vac Advance
Unique Thermostatic Choke Heat Riser Line heat_rise_tube.jpg heat_riser.jpg Heat Riser off Left Exhaust Manifold

 
A quick visual inspection will usually give you a pretty good idea if you're looking at a Thunderbird or Galaxie Tri-Power unit

  • The most apparent thing is the bird emblem at the front of a Thunderbird air cleaner lid.
  • The emblem on the Thunderbird lid is the same emblem that is found on the valance over the rear seat in the '63 Thunderbirds in case you need to replace one. It's also quite easy to take a plain Air cleaner lid and cut the fins out to make your own Thunderbird air cleaner using one of the emblems out of a '63 parts cars back seat. The correct Galaxie lid is plain, no emblems.  There is another version of a bird emblem with crossed flags used on some lids, but I don't know the correct application for them.  If you know, please email me and I'll add it here.   I've seen these emblems for sale often on ebay advertised as "Thunderbird" emblems. They may call them "Thunderbirds", but they are definately NOT for Thunderbird cars. It should also be noted that the Galaxie 406 Tri-power car also used "THUNDERBIRD" script valve covers.

  • Another dead give away is that the Tbird intake manifold has a level plane that the carbs are mounted on.
  • The Galaxie intake is stepped up toward the rear. Each carb sits about 1/4" higher than the one in front of it. The reason for this is that the engine sits in the car tilted down in the back. Thus the intake has to be stepped up toward the back so that when installed on the engine in the car, the carbs will sit level for proper float levels. The Engine in a Thunderbird sits level, therefor the mounting plane of the intake must be level.

  • Thunderbird also has a unique PCV (positive crankcase ventilation) system that the other fords do not.
  • The intake sucks the crankcase fumes and built up pressure which are created by the hot engine and the oil splashing around the lifters and push rods, and sucks them back into the combustion chambers for burning. The PCV pipe enters the intake just below the primary carburetor on the left side of the intake, drawing from the large opening at the back of the intake behind the rear secondary carburetor. There is a "basket" filled with a "steel wool" type material inside this hole which catches any oil splashing and allows it to drip back down and continue oiling the engine. The picture above shows an illustration of a Galaxie inline PCV valve between the rear PCV plate and the rear vacuum port. That's just one way Ford dealt with crankcase pressure. The other and more common method was to route a road draft tube from the rear PCV plate to below the engine level so oncoming air/wind would pull fumes from the crankcase. I don't have a pic of the road draft tube but the road draft tube would connect to the cover nipple.


  • The carburetors are also unique on the Birds. The Primary (center) Carburetor has it's own distinct crank while all three have their own metering blocks. Be sure to run the numbers! The crank on the Galaxie primary is longer than the tbird crank because it has to reach a little higher to get to the rear secondary which is mounted higher on the stepped up intake of the Galaxie.
  • The jetting is also different than it is on the Galaxie Carburetors. The Thunderbird Carburetor identification numbers are listed at the bottom of this page.

  • Thunderbird has an "Anti-Stall Dashpot" on the left side of the front secondary carb.
  • On quick deceleration, the tang on the bellcrank will hit the dashpot probe and stop the throttle plates short of closing to the slow idle position which would cause the engine to stall. The Galaxie intake set ups didn't use a dashpot, not sure if it's because of different settings, different high speed bleeds, etc, or if Ford just figured out that stalling on deceleration was caused by fuel spilling over onto the jets since the carbs are mounted backwards but there doesn't seem to be a need or a problem on the Galaxie intakes. Because there is no Dashpot you may have noticed that the Galaxy bellcrank doesn't have the "tang" that the Thunderbird bellcrank has.

  • Another pretty obvious item is the kickdown bracket.
  • It again is unique to Thunderbird Tri-Powers, however if you don't have one it is very easy to convert a Thunderbird 4V kickdown to an exact duplicate of the 6V bracket. Click here for step by step instructions. The long throttle rod on the Galaxie connects directly to the gas pedal on the firewall.

  • Note the long Thunderbird throttle rod with it's unique bends, compare it to the straighter Galaxie rod.

  • Two more parts identify the Thunderbird Tri-power at a glance, however, these parts are often modified or missing.


    They are the Vacuumn Advance Line and the Thermostatic Choke Heat Riser Tube.

  • The Vacuumn line has a very high loop in it just short of touching the bottom of the air cleaner.
  • The vacuumn source is located on the left side of the metering plate on the primary Carburetor and of course goes to the vacuumn advance diaphram on the distributor. The tall loop in the line is to keep moisture from entering the distributor. The vacuum advance is another item that's non existant on the Galaxie set up. The circuitry for it is all there throughout the carb but the carburetor base is not drilled for it. The 390-406 Galaxie set ups all used mechanical advance distributors.

  • The Heat Riser Tube crosses over the primary carburetor and connects to the right exhaust manifold. This tube crosses over the back of the primary carburetor an over the right valve cover to the exhaust manifold. The Galaxy tube simply crosses directly over the left valve cover to the exhaust manifold on that side.
  • On both cars it is a steel line with an asbestos woven insulator and on the Thunderbird Part# C2SZ-9819A is 33.5" long!

    The The above items are only found on correct complete Thunderbird "M" code intake systems. I've seen a lot of variations and adaptations on both Tbirds and Galaxies.




    IF YOU'RE MISSING ANY OF THE PARTS FOR YOUR TRI-POWER
    UNIT YOU CAN PURCHASE REPRODUCTIONS FROM JOE BUNETIC
    65 Concord Drive, Fairview Heights, Il 62208 618 397-3580
    Please call him in the evening.





    Many thanks to Ken at

    for his help providing the pictures and facts about the Galaxie Tri-Power assemblies. Be sure to visit his website and contact Ken if you have any questions. 



    The Carburetors are all Holly
    In the picture below, the red circle is where the Part# and the List#'s are located
    while the Metering Plate # is in the yellow circle.
    I'll point out here that the front and rear secondaries are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the two is that the front one came from Holly to Ford with the Dashpot attatched to it,
    thus it has different "stock" numbers than the rear secondary. A rear secondary can be substituted for a front one and vice versa as there are mounting holes for the dashpot on either one.

    Here are the numbers on your Tri-Power if it's a Thunderbird unit:

    rear_secondary.jpg Front Secondary Carburetor
    Part# C2SE-9510E
    List# 2499
    Metering Plate# 3563
    Jet Size 60

    Center Primary Carburetor
    Part# C2SE-9510A
    List# 2497
    Metering Plate# 3559

    Jet Size 57
    Rear Secondary Carburetor
    Part# C2SE-9510B
    List# 2498
    Metering Plate# 3563

    Jet Size 60

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